tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post112252378041494968..comments2023-08-13T12:20:53.393+01:00Comments on Anything that defies my sense of reason....: London 7/7: In Response to Bridget DunneThe Antagonisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1158964767212971912006-09-22T23:39:00.000+01:002006-09-22T23:39:00.000+01:00Thank you, anonymong, from Fortress GB. You obvio...Thank you, anonymong, from Fortress GB. <BR/><BR/>You obviously have no idea what the word 'conspiracy' means, I suggest you look it up.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1158962630506533322006-09-22T23:03:00.000+01:002006-09-22T23:03:00.000+01:00Why do you choose to believe that this is a conspi...Why do you choose to believe that this is a conspiracy? It was not a conspiracy. It was an act of Terrorism by young men tainted by hatred and an excuse of religious beliefs. As stated by someone earlier "You were not there". I work for one of the companies mentioned in your articles. I have done so for a number of years. My office is less than 15ft from the back of the bus when it exploded.. An excercise arranged to test contingencies or whatever other theory you have.. Complete bollox. Our company had nothing to do with this incident. Go and find something worthwhile to do and stop upsetting the British Public with your rubbish. This was an act of terrorism its as simple as that... It happens EVERY day in Iraq.. You'll be saying that's all planned as well next.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137344964840073322006-01-15T17:09:00.000+00:002006-01-15T17:09:00.000+00:00Four simple points: a) the explosives were just th...Four simple points: <BR/><BR/>a) the explosives were just that, explosives, and not incendiary devices. There is a difference! Therefore no charring on the No.30<BR/>b) they were home made and not military.<BR/>c) Tube trains AND BUSES are designed to have a minimum amount of flamable material. Aluminium (used to construct trains and buses)does burn, but only when exposed to prolonged intense fire. See the bombing of the Sir Galahad warship in the Falklands conflict for example of this.<BR/>d) The bomb on the No.30 was detonated upstairs. Away from the fuel tank.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Therefore you are wrong to compare these to car bomb attacks in the Middle East as they often use larger military explosives and incendiaries.<BR/>They are detonated closer to fuel tanks on single deck buses. <BR/>Also the bus bomb was vented by blowing the roof off, therefore less damage. Simple physics.<BR/>I haven't discovered these facts in some police/press report which has eluded you. It is common sense.<BR/>I would appreciate a constructive answer, aka "theory" which suggests different.<BR/>Regards<BR/>Tony-Superior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1136575264363311302006-01-06T19:21:00.000+00:002006-01-06T19:21:00.000+00:00Firstly, kindly retract your statement that actors...Firstly, kindly retract your statement that actors were involved at all (and not in the comments section - create a new post)<BR/><BR/>Secondly, stop the crap about the train carriage number as - how about this for a theory - someone mis-typed it? It's a pretty far-out theory, but there you go.<BR/><BR/>Thirdly, we were there, you ere not. Conjecture, conjecture, conjecture. Consiparcy theorists are (quite simply) full of it. It dos not wash. It will not wash. Four people were recruited (brainwashed) by some evil organisation to murder regardless of race, colour or religion. If the war in Iraq was over, troops pulled out etc would attacks end? Of course not, as it is about power! <BR/><BR/>The extremists would sense a weakened enemy and pummel Iraq and Wetern countries to underline their dominance. <BR/><BR/>It isn't about religion, as Muslims were killed in the attacks! What do that say Sidique Khan talking about fighting for his brothers and sisters when he helped kill them?<BR/><BR/>As I said above, I look forward to your retraction in a brand new post for all to see and I look forward to more holes being blown into your search for the "truth". I see my truth when I look at my leg and see a part of it missing. I hear my truth when the tinnitus from my blown-out eardrum is going strong. Other people see their truth when they saw their legs mangled from A SUICIDE BOMBER.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1136465608039430902006-01-05T12:53:00.000+00:002006-01-05T12:53:00.000+00:00Mitchell,Words cannot convey the sympathy and angu...Mitchell,<BR/><BR/>Words cannot convey the sympathy and anguish I feel for you and all those who suffered and have been traumatised as a result of what happened on July 7th. <BR/><BR/>I never claimed anyone on the underground was an actor and, with hindsight, I don't believe anyone on the bus was an actor either.<BR/><BR/>We know that on the day survivors and injured from the underground were being transported to hospital on buses from the affected stations and we know that the Number 30 bus was the only bus diverted from its usual route that morning. It was also the only bus that exploded. <BR/><BR/>There are <A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/09/london-77-number-30-bus-explosion.html" REL="nofollow">a considerable number of anomalies about the bus</A>, beginning with the fact that it occurred 57 minutes later than the 'almost simultaneous' incidents on the Underground.<BR/><BR/>I can only urge you to read <A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/09/london-77-number-30-bus-explosion.html" REL="nofollow">London 7/7: How To Be Good</A> which discusses the official 'narrative', the evidence presented to support the official narrative and the FACTS that mainstream media journalists appear to have ignored entirely about the movement of the Thameslink and underground trains on the day. If the facts of the day are anything to do with what happened, the official narrative is not the case. <BR/><BR/>Is Iraq a conspiracy? Did the Blair/Bush combo of state warmongers lie to make the Iraq war happen and kill anywhere between 30,000 (Source: George Walker Bush guesstimate) to 100,000 (Source: The Lancet)?<BR/><BR/>I have no agenda other than getting to the truth behind what happened on July 7th. I am perfectly prepared to believe that it was an atrocity carried out by Muslim extremists when the incontrovertible evidence to support this has been presented. <BR/><BR/>Deputy Chief Constable Andy Trotter of the British Transport Police said the crime scenes were "CCTV-rich" environments. He added: "Much has been retrieved and continues to be retrieved from roads and railway stations. We certainly hope that CCTV may assist in this inquiry."<BR/><BR/>Where is it? A cancelled train and one image of the four alleged to have perpertrated this atrocity in which three faces are unidentifiable does not qualify.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/12/london-77-clarke-says-no-public.html" REL="nofollow">The government have twice refused the victims, their families, survivors and the British people an inquiry</A> and government inquiries have a history of being, well, government inquiries. Recent history should tell us all we need to know about those. That the government have twice stated they do not want questions to be asked should be sufficient cause for concern in itself. Why not? Who benefits? The victims? The survivors? The driver of train 311 of whom the police have no record and who has been refused compensation as a result? The British public? Or merely the culture of fear which serves the state no end and the people no purpose at all?<BR/><BR/>Is the same state that lied to the British people about Iraq, rendition, torture and who now convicts people for daring to protest suddenly going to start telling us all the truth?<BR/><BR/>Those of us who question how the story of multiple staggered power surges and explosions that were reported for hours turned into simultaneous suicide bombs detonated by four, young, British born Muslims are not against you, <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4395286.stm" REL="nofollow">we are very much with you</A>.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1136459006981415902006-01-05T11:03:00.000+00:002006-01-05T11:03:00.000+00:00Are you an absolute freak?!?!I was standing about ...Are you an absolute freak?!?!<BR/><BR/>I was standing about three to five feet away from the bomber at Kings Cross and got the back part of my lower left leg blown away - I have been off work for six months and am still having trauma counselling.<BR/><BR/>You have no sense whatsoever - the idiocy of thinking this is a conspiracy quite simply boggles the mind. There are now nearly sixty families who have lost a family member and hundreds more, like my own, who have had to deal with the aftermath of this ATTACK - not a conspiracy, but an ATTACK - by terrorists. Are the almost daily events in Iraq a conspiracy? Are people merely pretending to be blown up? I am not an actor, I am an ordinary human who, like some many others, have now experienced terrorism first hand. You are a mindless dolt and in my opinion are no better than the radicals touting their idea of the "truth" in order to recruit suicide bombers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1123003083694902032005-08-02T18:18:00.000+01:002005-08-02T18:18:00.000+01:00Terrorism is terrorism is terrorism.Meanwhile, the...Terrorism is terrorism is terrorism.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, the list of interesting organisations located in and around Tavistock Square goes on:<BR/><BR/>British Transport Police<BR/>15 <A HREF="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=530148&Y=182411&A=Y&Z=1 " REL="nofollow">Tavistock Place</A><BR/>London<BR/>WC1H 9SY<BR/>Tel: 0207 830 8800<BR/><BR/>Further British Transport Police contact details for readers with any questions about the events of 7/7 are on the <A HREF="http://www.btp.police.uk/media.htm" REL="nofollow"> media contacts</A> page.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1122828203686354452005-07-31T17:43:00.000+01:002005-07-31T17:43:00.000+01:00Here here!I make no differentiation between the te...Here here!<BR/><BR/>I make no differentiation between the terrorists and the politicians. They are all the same to me. <BR/><BR/>Remember how quickly, (during the Kosovo War), the KLA went from being listed as terrorist organisation by the U.S. State Department to sudden reinstatement as 'Freedom Fighters'? <BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLA<BR/><BR/>I tar them all with the same brush. <BR/><BR/>And I need a mighty big brush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1122770233756059842005-07-31T01:37:00.000+01:002005-07-31T01:37:00.000+01:00Thanks for your comments and kind words, Bridget, ...Thanks for your comments and kind words, Bridget, and for the information from TFL.<BR/><BR/>With regard to the psychotic panic of the nation and the furtherance of a police state, it would be rather more difficult to introduce a police state if no such state of panic existed.<BR/><BR/>So, assuming <A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/07/london-77-in-response-to-bridget-dunne.html" REL="nofollow">two separate stories were merged</A>, those of an accident on the Underground and a 1,000 man security rehearsal operation from which the exploded bus was taken to tie the terrorist theory together, then we are left with no justification at all for the state of police, media and public panic that is leading everyone into blind acceptance of a trigger-happy, armed police force operating a shoot-to-kill policy.<BR/><BR/>What is beyond credulity is that these increased security measures that restrict the liberty, freedom and privacy of every single UK citizen, are billed as 'the terrorists' taking away our liberty and freedom, not our government with their imposed and increasingly restrictive laws.<BR/><BR/>If only someone would care to explain how the general public being treated en masse as if they were all guilty of terrorism might work in the public's favour, especially in light of the fact that it is openly admitted by the government, police and security services that the terrorists are impossible to stop.<BR/><BR/>Then again, if you take into account all the government supported terrorism, ongoing in various parts of the world, it could indeed be said that the removal of our freedoms is the work of terrorists, and some of the mightiest ones in the world at that.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1122652500904771752005-07-29T16:55:00.000+01:002005-07-29T16:55:00.000+01:00HelloI've just found your posting of my letter to ...Hello<BR/><BR/>I've just found your posting of my letter to the CNJ and just wanted to let you know that I've had the following reply from TFL to my question "What time did each of the trains leave Kings Cross on 7/7?"<BR/><BR/> I understand your point about the time helping eye witnesses. It is now clear that all three explosions were between 8.50 and 8.51am. Of course we have the track data to know exactly when each train left each station, but I think that any eye witnesses should concentrate on the run up to the key time of 8.50am. I hope that I have answered your questions, clarified the situation and set your mind at rest. Please contact us again if you need any help from London Underground in the future. Yours sincerely Robert Wolstenholme Customer Service Advisor Customer Service Centre 0845 330 9880 <BR/><BR/>TFL advertise Bob Kiley's CIA and CFR credentials YET we are not allowed to know the movement of these trains. WHY NOT?<BR/>Perhaps we could all keep trying to find this out by contacting Mr Wolstenholme, his phone number is included.<BR/><BR/>The psychotic panic that has broken out on our streets makes me feel that the (original?) purpose of these attacks, to strengthen the police state, has increasingly transformed into an exercise to petrify and threaten the people who know what actually happened that day. (Just check out the locations!)<BR/><BR/>Any suggestions on how I can find out this (hardly top secret) information would be very welcome. <BR/><BR/>Your site is truly inspiring, I've just printed out the Oxygen poem for my kids (it made me cry).<BR/><BR/>Best WishesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com