tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post113327173524075927..comments2023-08-13T12:20:53.393+01:00Comments on Anything that defies my sense of reason....: London 7/7: How to be Good - Part 1The Antagonisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-22825422955653103652011-05-05T19:45:51.745+01:002011-05-05T19:45:51.745+01:00Our lives are dead-boring until we put some life i...Our lives are dead-boring until we put some life into them with a few well-chosen bloody words.<br /><br />Mohammad Sidique Khan, Jnr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1161127686201099972006-10-18T00:28:00.000+01:002006-10-18T00:28:00.000+01:00I was a sceptic, about this and not least 9/11. Th...I was a sceptic, about this and not least 9/11. The more I read, the more I'm disconcerted. I face the horrific reality that our democratic governments are actually engineering this stuff. It really is time to think. Is chat enough? Think about what you're going to do. What are you going to do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1161126287859481932006-10-18T00:04:00.000+01:002006-10-18T00:04:00.000+01:00Time's up. Choose your sides. For one, I'm convinc...Time's up. Choose your sides. For one, I'm convinced we're faced with the most threatening force in all history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1156247465395440402006-08-22T12:51:00.000+01:002006-08-22T12:51:00.000+01:00tomtom: Thanks for the comment, but none of those ...tomtom: Thanks for the comment, but none of those image links seem to work?The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1156242569717201762006-08-22T11:29:00.000+01:002006-08-22T11:29:00.000+01:00when doing a search on google for the "passengers ...when doing a search on google for the "passengers on the 0748 thameslink from luton" click on the [cached] link<BR/><A HREF="http://static02.vapshare.com/3dc9c903693c11f53780ed022680b0d8/123385.jpg" REL="nofollow">image one</A><BR/><BR/>as shown on the above picture.<BR/><BR/>on the top of the page result page click on the [cached text only]<BR/><BR/>as shown here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://static01.vapshare.com/3dc9c903693c11f53780ed022680b0d8/123386.jpg" REL="nofollow">image 2</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>you'll get the original picture lable, and you can compare it with the updated one.<BR/><BR/>this is the original<BR/><A HREF="http://static01.vapshare.com/3dc9c903693c11f53780ed022680b0d8/123384.jpg" REL="nofollow">image3</A><BR/><BR/>the update:<BR/><A HREF="http://static01.vapshare.com/3dc9c903693c11f53780ed022680b0d8/123387.jpg" REL="nofollow">image4</A><BR/><BR/>God BlessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1155415185721682072006-08-12T21:39:00.000+01:002006-08-12T21:39:00.000+01:00Until recently (December 2005) I used to think tha...Until recently (December 2005) I used to think that the petrodollar was the product of the USA $ being the reserve currency. I then later found out that it was the product of an agreement in 1973 between the Saudis/ Kissinger (in exchange for `protection') when the USA elite were no longer able to hold the USA economy together (when USA $ came of the gold standard) & needed credit expansionary steroids to prop up the regime such as be enabled by the petro$ (functioning as an `unlimited credit card'). Causing 2/3 of world trade to be denominated in the $ in spite of the USA budget/ trade deficit & other even graver liabilities - the establishment of such also helped them fund the arms race bankrupting the USSR at the price of bankripting themselves (But this does not matter as the can simply print $$, exporting their institutionalised inflation to the rest of the world). I was then forced to conclude that an elite that had over 27 years gotten away with such a manouevre would feel itself so psycho politically omnipotent that it would be psychologically capable of executing September 11th itself to provide it with a pretext to prop up the petro$ via the `Long War'. This goes perhaps a bit further to elaborating on the capability of the regime to carry out such a Grand Strategy of Tension op(motive provided by the Project For New American Centuary). Though I would NOT contend is in & of itself conclusive. <BR/><BR/> Anyone unfamiliar with the 9/11 Truth Movement should see: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5004704309041471296&q=alex+symposium<BR/> Particularly interesting is how a steel framed building like `Building 7' fell down without even being hit by a plane.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1152883631894624782006-07-14T14:27:00.000+01:002006-07-14T14:27:00.000+01:00Have not yet had time to read the whole of this in...Have not yet had time to read the whole of this interesting site but just wanted to throw this into the mix re the events of 7/7. <BR/><BR/>I was recently speaking to an aquaintance who is a teacher & had been due to attend an education conference in the Russell Square area on 7th July. Shortly before the conference she received a letter saying the event had been cancelled, which in the event was very lucky for her since if she had attended she would very likely have been travelling in one of the affected tube trains. After 7/7 she got a letter from the event organisers saying "following the cancellation of the conference due to 7/7". She immediately contacted them and pointed out that the event had been cancelled before 7/7 but they were insistent that the event had only been cancelled on the day itself, due to the attacks, and that her letter must have been an administrative mix-up.<BR/><BR/>I don't know any more details than this and it would be difficult to find out any more from the person herself since she is fixated on her lucky escape rather than anything else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1152800137487882052006-07-13T15:15:00.000+01:002006-07-13T15:15:00.000+01:00Oh, it's you, again. Bored at work, again. I can...Oh, it's <A HREF="http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">you</A>, again. Bored at work, again. <BR/><BR/>I can only imagine that you must have forgotten your previous abusive comments on this blog which followed effortlessly on from <A HREF="http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2006/01/conspiracy-theorists.html" REL="nofollow">this</A> and <A HREF="http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2006/01/if-you-are-conspiracy-theorist.html" REL="nofollow">this</A>:<BR/><BR/>As a reminder of conversations past, you have previously said:<BR/><BR/>=========================<BR/><B>I think you are worse than paraniod, i think you are a disgrace and should take down these lies at once, you ghoulish hyena who shits on the graves of the dead</B> <BR/>--<BR/>Posted by Anonymous to Anything that defies my sense of reason.... at 1/05/2006 01:18:32 PM <BR/>=========================<BR/><BR/>To which my response was this:<BR/><BR/>=========================<BR/><B>Thank you, 'Anonymous', at <A HREF="http://www.emapadvertising.com/contacts/contacts_results.asp?searchfield=Cross+Media" REL="nofollow">EMAP Plc</A> for your kind, considered comments.</B><BR/>--<BR/>Posted by The Antagonist to Anything that defies my sense of reason.... at 1/05/2006 01:35:37 PM <BR/>=========================<BR/><BR/>At the time, you attempted to pass off your abusive comments as those of a work colleague and I have no doubt you will endeavour to pass off responsibility for this latest outburst, yet again. Nothing if not loyal and honest. <BR/><BR/>Still, I know you're responsible for these comments, you know you're responsible for these comments and, once again, so does everyone else.<BR/><BR/>A few words of advice; If you will insist on maintaining multiple personalities that appear in various places around the Internet, you may want to imbue some of them with a slightly <A HREF="http://thefridayproject.co.uk/talk/showpost.php?p=33793&postcount=25" REL="nofollow">different vocabulary</A> to your own.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1152618519910392762006-07-11T12:48:00.000+01:002006-07-11T12:48:00.000+01:00Anwar spake thusly: "I have now done enough resear...Anwar spake thusly<B>: "I have now done enough research into this tragedy to be sure beyond reasonable doubt that the 7/7 atrocity was indeed carried out by the four "alleged" bombers. To suggest otherwise is a gross insult to the memory of those who died and to the living nightmare and the very slow healing process of those who survived.</B>"<BR/><BR/>From this statement alone it would appear that during your week in Leeds and Beeston, you did not happen to speak with the families of the accused. <BR/><BR/>On the eve of the first anniversary, the father of Hasib Hussain was quoted by the Daily Mirror as having seen no evidence, forensic or otherwise, that proves the veracity of the allegations against his son. It is clear you did not speak to Mr Hussain, or other relatives of Hasib Hussain, and that you did not speak to the family of Mohammad Sidique Khan, who have made similar claims.<BR/><BR/>If you have EVIDENCE that proves the guilt of the accused, then the same call goes to you as any other individual or authority who claims to have the definitive version of what happened: <B>RELEASE THE EVIDENCE!</B><BR/><BR/>Until then, for you, or anyone else, '<I>to suggest otherwise is a gross insult to the memory of those who died and to the living nightmare and the very slow healing process of those who survived</I>.'The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1152579111061835282006-07-11T01:51:00.000+01:002006-07-11T01:51:00.000+01:00As a Muslim, a writer, and above all someone who h...As a Muslim, a writer, and above all someone who has very closely observed and monitored the rise of militant islam in Britain over the past couple of decades (yes it does stretch back that far, perhaps longer, except that tactical vote buying and political correctness kept a lid on things), i have found some of the comments on this site to be in extremely poor taste. <BR/><BR/>Following the tragedy of 7/7, i personally spent a week in the towns of Beeston and Dewsbury which is where three of the four bombers came from. I have now done enough research into this tragedy to be sure beyond reasonable doubt that the 7/7 atrocity was indeed carried out by the four "alleged" bombers. To suggest otherwise is a gross insult to the memory of those who died and to the living nightmare and the very slow healing process of those who survived. There may be doubts about the train times, about the sequence of events etc., but lets not forget that there was massive chaos and confusion following the bomb blasts and a lot of initial reporting was done on the basis of hearsay and second hand reports. <BR/><BR/>To even attempt to create a conspiracy theory out of such a wickedly tragic event defies belief. <BR/><BR/>Yes, i do believe that there should be a full, independent public inquiry. It wont shut up the conspiracy theorists of course, but it could clear up some rather thorny issues e.g. how much the security agencies knew about the bombers? what were they doing in Pakistan? why, when a former hells angel turned IT expert tried to warn the intelligence agencies about these guys, were his pleas ignored? also there is the tricky issue of relations with Pakistan, a so called "frontline state" in the so called "war on terror". There are people in Pakistan who know full well what Khan and Tanvir got up to when they were there. Trouble is some of these people are in very powerful positions in Pakistan and in the present climate it is highly unlikely that anyone, least of all the British government would want to upset the apple cart too much. <BR/><BR/>So guys we are not going to have a full, independent inquiry. Forget it, its not gonna happen. So enjoy the conspiracy theories, but please show some respect for the bereaved and those who survived and have had the courage to speak out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1148731946252234792006-05-27T13:12:00.000+01:002006-05-27T13:12:00.000+01:00Tony-Superior wroteAs for Hussain, as I said North...Tony-Superior wrote<BR/><BR/><I>As for Hussain, as I said Northern Line was diverted via Piccadilly line/Piccadilly Circus. He would have clashed with Lindsay, but you choose to overlook these things.</I><BR/><BR/>This is very interesting. Can you say more about it?Numeralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10524375540498868004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1147484836538897502006-05-13T02:47:00.000+01:002006-05-13T02:47:00.000+01:00Anonymong: The X-Files is a TV show and you reall...Anonymong: The X-Files is a TV show and you really shouldn't go confusing anything you see on TV with any sort of reality.<BR/><BR/>Second, in answer to your question: NO EVIDENCE.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1147437658036369612006-05-12T13:40:00.000+01:002006-05-12T13:40:00.000+01:00@ http://www.blogger.com/profile/2022146You gots t...@ http://www.blogger.com/profile/2022146<BR/>You gots to be a MASSIVE moron to think of the events of 7/7 in such X-Files-esque terms.<BR/>Why is it so hard to accept the version of events as reported by the "mainstream" press?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1138805958649493212006-02-01T14:59:00.000+00:002006-02-01T14:59:00.000+00:00To Social Democracy NowI am working in an an offic...To Social Democracy Now<BR/><BR/>I am working in an an office in the West End, doing an advertising job. I have been doing this since mid May. My first name is Rachel, I call myself Rachel North or Rachel from North London when I write since I do not wish my surname to appear in the national media. Why? Because as a rape survivor who has written about her experiences I am legally entitled to anonymity and I was grateful for that protection during the intense and ongoing media interest in the event sof 7th July which I was caught up on. See 'Rachel's Story in the Sunday Times.'<BR/><BR/> I have published many pieces of writing about 7th July, the first being an account on the day which was published on urban 75. This became a survivor blog which was picked up and run on the BBC homepage and can still be found there if you google BBC News London explosions survivor diary. I continue to write a blog. I have also interviewed fellow passengers ( at their request) for the Sunday Times and the Evening Standard and have written a great deal since July 7th. The events of that day made me write, which has helped me to deal with the events of that day and to find a means of drawing together with strangers to find hope - one of the positive things for me to come out of the horror, the other has been the privilege of becoming friends with so many of my fellow passengers, ordinary people like me whom I would never have met.<BR/><BR/>So in answer to your question, there 's quite a lot of stuff out there from me, and for no other reason than a) I was on the train near the bomb b) I have written about it c) people like the way I write and aske dme to keep writing d) I was volunteered as media spokeswoman for the survivor group when we spoke to the media ( in order to let fellow passengers know we existed) because my advertising job has given me some training to help with dealing with the media. I've written about all this on my blog. <BR/><BR/>I didn't see Germaine Lindsey, another passenger queued next to him, tried to get on behind him, then moved into carriage 2 because it was so crowded he couldn't get on the train.<BR/><BR/>As to you saying I do not show a lot of 'curiosity' about 7th July - 'curiosity' is not the right word - I am haunted by it, it upsets me deeply, it is ever-present in my life as I and others try to recover from what we saw and felt that day. That is why I am actively campaigning for a public enquiry and regularly criticising the government.<BR/><BR/> However I have seen nothing to make me think that it was not suicide bombers. And I have access to a very great deal more information than you.<BR/><BR/> You are talking to a real person, who was feet away from the bomb, is part of a close knit community of people who were there on that day and in regular contact with survivors and bereaved, police and TFL staff, nurses and yes, investigative journalists. So I don't really papreciate all this crap about being called a liar, or a COINTELPRO agent or any of this nonsense some of you people come out with. I am lucky to be alive. I dislike having my near -death experience reduced to some conspiracy theorist's fantasy, when I live with it every day and so do many others. Some of whom have visited this blog and pointed this out as well. <BR/><BR/>I am quite fed up with all of this but since there seems to be quite a nasty little campaign going on to infer I am a Government agent of disinformation - a vicious smear, if the sources of the smear weren't clearly so laughably paraniod conpiracists - I pop in here now and again just to point out that I am no such thing. As the most cursory research would have revealed. Call yourselves 'truthseekers'? Call yourselves' independent investigators'. Ha. <BR/><BR/>Don't make me laugh.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04807921540492728422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137846909707357812006-01-21T12:35:00.000+00:002006-01-21T12:35:00.000+00:00So who was shot at Canary Wharf? Did that ever com...So who was shot at Canary Wharf? Did that ever come out?DigitalSpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17743074727344912786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137761010761332412006-01-20T12:43:00.000+00:002006-01-20T12:43:00.000+00:00To be honest, I don't have any knowledge on this s...To be honest, I don't have any knowledge on this subject and don't intend to learn. I also don't really fancy doing a google search on it, we're bordering on a very sensitive area. <BR/><BR/>I do know this quite informative page exists though, most of it makes no sense to me but you get the idea.<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide<BR/><BR/>You're right about it being an "entropic explosion", however, from what I gather an amount of heat is still expelled. Although this is much less than other exposives.<BR/>All I can suggest is, I imagine you would still get friction burns from a TATP explosion. And a (relatively) small amount of heat from close range would still burn.<BR/><BR/>There is no way people are lying about seeing the flash and burns, why would they? And why would so many have the same account?<BR/>But, the information on Wikipedia suggests that there are many other options they could go with...<BR/><BR/>"Even for people who synthesize homemade explosives, there are many far safer alternatives. Even nitroglycerin is not nearly as sensitive as acetone peroxide." <BR/><BR/>The sensitivity of it may have led to an earlier detonation on the no.30 than intended. Especially as its volatility rises as its temperature does. This sounds like a reasonable assumption.<BR/><BR/>I would assume either the police have simply lied to throw any copy-cats off the scent of what they actually used. Which is fair enough. <BR/><BR/>Or, that people sustained friction burns and other burns. The use of TATP would also fit as both the bus and trains show no charring. As for the flash, maybe this was actually just the detonator. Bangs were still heard with the failed 21/7 attacks, just the detonator blew the window out on the Hackney Road bus.<BR/><BR/>As I said, I don't think it helps any of us to have an online discussion about this VERY dodgy subject. Neither of us actually know anything about the subject and I don't intend learning now.<BR/><BR/>Regards<BR/>Tony-SuperiorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137708718864107452006-01-19T22:11:00.000+00:002006-01-19T22:11:00.000+00:00@ Tony-SuperiorYou referred to:4.5kg of home-made ...@ Tony-Superior<BR/><BR/>You referred to:<BR/><BR/><B>4.5kg of home-made solid state explosive acetone peroxide.</B><BR/><BR/>As someone who has no science O Level, I defer to others where explosives are concerned. One thing that does interest me is the fact that the story changed from military explosives (with timers) to home-made explosives (made in a bathtub?) detonated with button like devices by suicide bombers.<BR/><BR/><B>Someone who does know their stuff I've copied and pasted here:</B><BR/><BR/>Thus far we have been told that the explosives were:<BR/><BR/>1. "C-4" - London Times and UPI, quoting French antiterror officials Christian Chaboud an Roland Jacquard<BR/><BR/>2. "not home-made explosive. Whether it is military explosive, whether it is commercial explosive, whether it is plastic explosive we do not want to say at this stage." - Scotland Yard Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick http://abc.net.au<BR/><BR/>3. "simple, relatively easy-to-obtain plastic explosives, not the higher-grade military plastics like Semtex that would have killed far more people" - Andy Oppenheimer, consultant for Jane's Information Group (Oppenheimer then changed his story to TATP)<BR/><BR/>4. "TATP" - the current spin based on the "discovery" of the bomb bathtub and the 2nd batch of "miraculous dud bombs" on 7/21 that were hailed as a "forensic goldmine."<BR/><BR/>Explosives 101<BR/><BR/>How do explosives blow up? The operative word is "blow," i.e. gas expansion. A more or less rapid chemically-produced gas expansion can go from bruising your face, as in an auto airbag, to severe wounds, as in a fireworks accident, to knocking your head off, as with high explosive like TATP, TNT, or C-4.<BR/><BR/>The power of an explosive depends on:<BR/><BR/>1. the top speed of the expanding gas, called detonation velocity. If it's supersonic, the shock wave adds to the force of the explosion and you have a high explosive (dynamite, TNT, C-4, TATP). If it's subsonic, you no longer have a detonation but a deflagration (black powder, rocket propellant, hydrocarbon explosions). RDX, the explosive that C-4 is made of, has a detonation velocity of 27,000 fps. Of the explosives used by Palestinians, TNT has a DV of 22,300 fps, and TATP has one of 17, 200 fps.<BR/><BR/>2. the time it takes for the gas to reach that top speed, called brisance. The combined effect of DV and brisance make RDX almost twice as powerful as TATP.<BR/><BR/>3. the heat generated by the chemical reaction, which almost always is what makes the gases expand so rapidly. The heat of the explosion also causes flash burns in victims and emits light, which is why almost all bangs are associated with a flash.<B> All except one: TATP. TATP produces no heat and no light. Consequently, no one can see the "flash" of a TATP explosion or suffer flash burns from it.</B><BR/><BR/>TATP burns the spinmeisters, not the victims<BR/><BR/><B>The following story blows two large and one medium-sized holes in the current TATP story for 7/7: Nobody can be burned by a TATP bomb, nobody can see the "flash" of a TATP bomb, and TATP can be identified on a bomb site.</B><BR/><BR/>Israeli invention detects TATP explosives<BR/>Israel Insider, January 27, 2005<BR/><BR/>Researchers from Israel's Technion in Haifa have developed a device to detect the kind of improvised explosives increasingly used by Arab terror groups. The new detector, named the Peroxide Explosive Tester (PET), looks like a three-color ball-point pen. The device releases three chemical mixtures that change color upon interaction with the suspected explosive materials.<BR/>(. . .)<BR/>"To our great surprise," PET's inventor, Prof. Ehud Keinan, Dean of the Technion's Faculty of Chemistry, wrote in the Journal of the American Chemical Society, "we discovered that TATP is very different from all other conventional explosives in that it does not release heat during the explosion. It explodes by rapid decomposition of every solid-state molecule to four gas-phase molecules. This rare phenomenon, scientifically known as 'Entropic Explosion', is reminiscent of the rapid reaction that produces gas in the safety air-bags of cars during accidents."<BR/><BR/><B>The London tube trains had no fuel that the blasts could ignite and the double decker's fuel tank did not catch fire. Therefore if TATP was what blew up the London tube trains, no one should have suffered burns.</B> So if the government is right about TATP, all these people are lying about seeing flashes, and they're cheating the health care system by pretending to have burns.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.tos4truth.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=9603" REL="nofollow">Source</A>Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137706968851152382006-01-19T21:42:00.000+00:002006-01-19T21:42:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137630057754065672006-01-19T00:20:00.000+00:002006-01-19T00:20:00.000+00:00"The picture shows Hasib Hussain, 18, at the Luton..."The picture shows Hasib Hussain, 18, at the Luton train station at 7:20 a.m."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Kier- "When he hadn't, according to the timestamp on the CCTV image taken outside, even entered the station until 7.22."<BR/><BR/>Kier- "If they did take the 0724, which would also have been difficult since they only had about 3 minutes to get into the station, buy tickets and then get across the station to the right platform,..."<BR/><BR/>Ever considered the clocks were wrong? Unlike the Japaneses train system the British one is let just say , a little rough round the edges, slack even, hardly efficient. <BR/><BR/>Many points to do with the train times can be put down to simple human error. (or ultimately to the privatisation of UK railways)<BR/>Someone forgetting to update the timestamp on the CCTV tape recorder at Luton station does not constitute a conspiracy theory or government cover-up.<BR/><BR/>As for the time getting to the paltform, this would be minimal. Luton station is tiny, and 7.20am is way before rush hour so there would be no queue for tickets. I think, though im not sure it only has two platforms. You don't even have to cross the line to board southbound trains.<BR/><BR/>I also find it very hard to beleive that no trains went through Luton to Kings Cross between 7.20 and 7.45. Luton is on the main Edinburgh to London line. The route of the famous Flying Scotsman. And of course Luton-London is prime commuter-belt. So it is not only served by Thameslink, but by national rail providers also, i.e. Midland Mainline etc...<BR/><BR/>Do we know if they pre-bought tickets? Or reserved them and got them on a credit card from the machine? All would speed them up. I'm willing to accept that there are many things we will never know. And I would guess as "Sid" was the "ringleader" he would have bought them as a group, one purchase of 4 tickets. <BR/><BR/>As I have previously stated, none of this actually matters as they DID board and bomb the underground and the no.30. You have to compare two or more sources to constitute evidence. <BR/><BR/>For example:<BR/>a) train time anomalies suggest they didnt board, <BR/>b) ID documents found at the scene prove they were there, and therefore did board.<BR/>c) Eye witnesses prove Lindsay boarded the Piccadilly train, therefore they did board.<BR/><BR/>Simple.<BR/><BR/>You could of course argue that the government planted ID documents, or simply lied. We haven't seen them after all. But you would now be descending into a "Truman Show" level of paranoia.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Tony-Superior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137459691216125052006-01-17T01:01:00.000+00:002006-01-17T01:01:00.000+00:00You are also the same person who beleives bombs di...You are also the same person who beleives bombs disintegrate everything within a pre-determined proximity to a molecular level. <BR/><BR/>Does November 6th mean anything to you?<BR/><BR/>November 6th, the day after bonfire night. I attempt to go out and feed the birds, yet stumble upon countless pieces of litter strewn over my property. I find countless wooden splints on the lawn, multi-coloured plastic cones, one in the pond, one in the flower bed and endless bits of cardboard tube. Some even on the kitchen roof! <BR/>Being a proud gardener I gather the pieces together, would you beleive it? 5 wooden splints, 5 plastic cones, 5 piles of broken up cardboard. On the side of one piece I can see a slogan "lunar-rocket" It could easily be someones name. <BR/><BR/>In conclusion, if a bit of recycled cardboard can survive a (frankly stupidly large and illegally imported) chinese rocket from a distance of zero metres. Then I suggest many other inanimate objects also could do so, including ID documents. <BR/><BR/>Regards <BR/>Tony-SuperiorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137458627888370602006-01-17T00:43:00.000+00:002006-01-17T00:43:00.000+00:00Why should I take any of your points? You are afte...Why should I take any of your points? You are after all the same person who compared 30000 litres of industrially produced hydrogen peroxide liquid bleach (or bleach ingredients) which chemically burned on the M25 to 4.5kg of home-made solid state explosive acetone peroxide. <BR/><BR/>In my opinion this voids anything you say. Where is the comparison? One is Inflammable, one is Explosive. One is a cleaning agent, one is explosive. One is 30000 litres of liquid hydrogen peroxide, one is 4.5kg of solid acetone peroxide. NOT EVEN THE SAME CHEMICAL!<BR/><BR/>I suggest you retake Chemistry O-level. <BR/><BR/>As for Hussain, as I said Northern Line was diverted via Piccadilly line/Piccadilly Circus. He would have clashed with Lindsay, but you choose to overlook these things.<BR/><BR/>Regards<BR/>Tony-Superior <BR/>(btw my name is Tony-Superior and not "Tony")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137456941260605302006-01-17T00:15:00.000+00:002006-01-17T00:15:00.000+00:00Tony: Thanks for reading and taking the time to a...Tony: Thanks for reading and taking the time to add your comments. <BR/><BR/>I concur it is entirely possible that the notion of power surges was given at the time of the incidents in order to ensure an orderly evacuation from the Underground. That said, this does not remove the considerable anomalies from the 'official' version of events. The article to which these comments are attached demonstrates how the existing 'narrative' contains fundamental factual errors which have led many to question the story of what happened that day. <BR/><BR/>I believe that at the time something occurs - e.g. a bomb going off, or a power surge occurring - a snapshot of that moment can be represented in an entirely binary fashion. All influencing factors involved in the event are contained in that snapshot and can be represented as being the case, or not being the case. So, in relation to the official story:<BR/><BR/>Did the 0740 Thameslink train from Luton to King's Cross run on the morning of July 7th?<BR/>No.<BR/><BR/>Did the 0748 Thameslink train from Luton to King's Cross arrive in time for the alleged bombers to catch the bombed trains?<BR/>No.<BR/><BR/>Have we been told that the alleged bombers caught anything other than either of these trains?<BR/>No.<BR/><BR/>Current estimates assume that a person is likely to appear on CCTV some 300 times a day yet has any CCTV footage showing the journey of the alleged bombers been released to support the 'narrative' in which they caught a train that didn't run, or a train that wouldn't have got them to King's Cross in time to catch the bombed trains?<BR/>No.<BR/><BR/>Was Peter Power running a 1,000 man anti-terrorist security rehearsal operation on July 7th rehearsing bombs going off in precisely the stations they went off in that morning? <BR/>Yes.<BR/><BR/>Despite Channel 4's apparent 'debunking' that there was anything at all untoward about Peter Power's rehearsal that morning (all based solely on a later retraction by Power after he too had recovered from the shock of real bombs going off in the middle of his rehearsal operation), has the media entirely glossed over this alarming coincidence of events?<BR/>Yes.<BR/><BR/>Has Peter Power been used as an independent security consultant with no special connection to events of July 7th?<BR/>Yes.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And so it goes on. As a direct result of the many inconsistencies and apparent coincidences that day, a great many people have a lot of questions to which no answers have been forthcoming for over 6 months and I think this list of people includes a lot of those who were there and whose voices we are not hearing for some reason. <BR/><BR/>The state has twice refused the people an inquiry. <BR/><BR/>Last time I checked, a grand total of 331 people appeared to believe that a government inquiry would provide any of the answers that the victims, the injured, their families and the rest of London's commuters and the British people deserve. And this is despite a full public launch, backed by cross-media communications through newspaper and magazine articles, interviews and the Internet.<BR/><BR/>Compare this to the Piccadilly Line that was at crush capacity, just shy of 800 people on just one of the trains involved in one of the incidents.<BR/><BR/>I think this speaks for itself.<BR/><BR/>For those of us above ground that morning and following events via rolling news channels and radio broadcasts, the story was power surges until such time as the diverted Number 30 bus exploded in Tavistock Square. On the day the bus was the only visible image of what occurred and there are a very great number of anomalies the diverted number 30 bus too.<BR/><BR/>And so the questions about the bus, the journey of the alleged bombers, and why one simultaneous suicide bomb didn't detonate until 57 minutes later, 0947 - as, or immediately after, the underground had been evacuated.<BR/><BR/>In closing, as I write this response to you, it occured to me that if the hub of London's underground, overground and mainline stations was being evacuated from 0850 onwards and a young man with a rucksack full of explosives and the intent to kill as many people as possible happened to be right in the thick it - as one was apparently shown to be, outside Boots at 0900 that morning - the most effective detonation point, the detonation point that would have caused the greatest number of casualties, would have been right there in the midst of that evacuation, not on a bus round the corner and certainly not 57 minutes later than the simultaneous 'burning cross' incidents apparently intended for the underground.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137345398270917492006-01-15T17:16:00.000+00:002006-01-15T17:16:00.000+00:00So you have agreed with me. Thank you, I lookforwa...So you have agreed with me. Thank you, I lookforward to you talking more sense in the future.<BR/>Tony-SuperiorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137335709190090312006-01-15T14:35:00.000+00:002006-01-15T14:35:00.000+00:00I received this reply from London Underground when...I received this reply from London Underground when I asked why power surges were announced if the knew that bombs had exploded.<BR/><BR/>27/Jul/2005<BR/>Dear Ms Dunne<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing to the Mayor recently with your concerns about the Tube.<BR/><BR/>Your e-mail has been logged at his office and passed to me to answer from London Underground's point of view.<BR/><BR/>I am sorry for the delay getting back to you. I'm sure you'll understand that we have a large volume of correspondence to deal with at the moment.<BR/><BR/>I'll answer your questions in the order and form you asked them.<BR/><BR/>1. Yes, all Tube trains have radio contact with their line control.<BR/><BR/>2. I'm sorry, but I find this question a little strange because it seems to assume that the drivers did not alert the control centre. I'm not sure what information you base this assumption on, but it isn't accurate. Our network control had been alerted to all the incidents within minutes of them happening. Your question also seems to assume that the drivers would have known instantly that the incidents were bombs, but this also isn't the case. They reported what they knew, often the symptoms rather than the cause (so to speak), which itself may not have been immediately clear.<BR/><BR/>3. Mercifully, no member of our staff was injured in any of the explosions. I understand that there was damage to the cab of at least one train where the windows were shattered.<BR/><BR/>4. Again,<B>I'm afraid it's not accurate to say that the information given about a power surge was a 'story'.</B> When the explosions happened, obviously they broke the track circuit. On the computer systems at network control, such a big break would look the same as a power surge. It's worth pointing out that we have never been the victim of a terrorist attack of this kind before, but on 28 August 2003 a power surge knocked out about half of the network.<B> Such a surge can be accompanied by explosions. In other words, all the evidence we had at the time (including the information from the drivers) and our experience pointed to a power surge, so that's what we said it was. This information was given in good faith.</B><BR/><BR/><B>I am dismayed by reports in certain sections of the media that the term power surge was used as some kind of cover story until we were ready to reveal the truth. Indeed, I have to say that I take issue with calling it a 'story', as this seems to imply that we deliberately misled people. This is nonsense. As soon as we had evidence of what had actually happened, we made that information public.</B><BR/><BR/>5. Most trains now have CCTV and it is being added to older trains as they are refurbished and fitted on new trains as standard. You may have seen the images from train CCTV of the 21 July Oval suspect.<BR/><BR/>6. I understand your point about the time helping eye witnesses. It is now clear that all three explosions were between 8.50 and 8.51am. Of course we have the track data to know exactly when each train left each station, but I think that any eye witnesses should concentrate on the run up to the key time of 8.50am.<BR/><BR/>I hope that I have answered your questions, clarified the situation and set your mind at rest.<BR/><BR/>Please contact us again if you need any help from London Underground in the future.<BR/><BR/>Yours sincerely<BR/><BR/>Robert Wolstenholme<BR/>Customer Service Advisor<BR/>Customer Service Centre<BR/>0845 330 9880<BR/><BR/>Until the bus exploded, power surges were the explanation given, and given in 'good faith', according to London Underground.<BR/>Neither is there any suggestion in this reply that power surges were used as an explanation to evacuate the stations in an orderly manner.Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-1137282450214544982006-01-14T23:47:00.000+00:002006-01-14T23:47:00.000+00:00Could i put something forward to you? 3 million pe...Could i put something forward to you? 3 million people use the undergrond each day, so it's a fair assumption that tens of thousands were on the system when the incidents happened. <BR/>If you had to evacuate the entire system as quickly as possible would you tell them: <BR/>a) that there have been power surges, therefore they must leave in an orderly fashion, which they did.<BR/>b) there have been a number of bomb explosions and we do not know if there will be any more.<BR/>I would personally side with a), it would stop the entire system and passengers would not question it. Especially as many trains were stopped within tunnels.<BR/>We all saw what happened when Shia pilgrims panicked over rumours of a suicide bomber in baghdad. 1000 killed, and no bomber. This theory also stands up to analysis as the bombs were intially thought to be staggered. <BR/>Also, the police had to confirm bombs only when the No.30 exploded as it was blatantly obvious. <BR/>I would appreciate your comments.<BR/>Tony-superiorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com