tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post214101046238215363..comments2023-08-13T12:20:53.393+01:00Comments on Anything that defies my sense of reason....: 9/11: The "ghoulish hyena who shits on the graves of the dead" "making a living on the backs of the dead"The Antagonisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-87741695303389682282008-09-14T09:28:00.000+01:002008-09-14T09:28:00.000+01:00Ant and Co.In one of my earlier posts on http://br...Ant and Co.<BR/><BR/>In one of my earlier posts on http://bridgetdunnes.blogspot.com/ I mentioned something like smoke in the carriages before the bomb went off. Obviously this was important and numeral asked me for a source. I searched very hard because I wanted to make sure I wasn't holding and passing on false info, but try as I might, I couldn't find one reference, so I asked B et al to discount it. But I was convinced I read a report about smoke filling the carriage before the bomb <I>(supposed bomb)</I><BR/><BR/>If I'm wrong I may have been confusing reports involving smoke - a distinct possibility and I now think this is what transpired, but if i wasn't challenged on it and checked it out, I'd still he holding something that would be wrong.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, I'm pretty sure I did read it because I'm sure I thought to myself at the time 'how odd that the smoke was produced beforehand." But it may be I was reading a report about people elsewhere in the tube (or smoke due to an electrical problem - I'm sure the electrical 'problem' occurred to me at the time as well!)<BR/><BR/><BR/>An interesting question is this: Are any of our false memories implanted or simply and innocently due to human frailty? If 7-7 was a conspiracy, I believe it was, then to think they wouldn't try and plant or encourage false memories is perhaps not likely. <BR/><BR/>The anonymous Observer article and the proportion of false memories amongst Brits vs. Swedes makes me suspicious.<BR/><BR/>I try to excuse my probable error by saying I'm just a single person without the responsibilities of a msm journo who should always check his info in cases like this and gets paid for writing it. <BR/><BR/><BR/>But what’s not in dispute is the 3yers+ now that the govt had obstructed a full and proper investigation as cased ambiguity and error (and apathy) to flourish.<BR/><BR/>Shame on them.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>http://bridgetdunnes.blogspot.com/2006/06/guardian.html<BR/>I posted as Tony-broke-the-lawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-70020180157546671622008-09-13T14:46:00.000+01:002008-09-13T14:46:00.000+01:00Can't imagine why that might be, Alex!It all becom...Can't imagine why that might be, Alex!<BR/><BR/>It all becomes still more convoluted when one one learns: "<A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/sep/10/humanbehaviour.july7" REL="nofollow"><I>Study shows how false memories rerun 7/7 film that never existed</I></A>"<BR/><BR/><I>"Some people claimed to have seen non-existent CCTV footage of the bus exploding in Tavistock Square in July 2005, while others gave detailed descriptions of footage which did not exist. || Neither the CCTV or the computer reconstruction existed, but 40% and 28% of British respondents claimed to remember seeing them. The equivalent figures of the Swedish participants were 16% and 6%."</I><BR/><BR/>This is backed up by such things as <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2008/jan/20/features.magazine77" REL="nofollow">Observer journalists referring to</A>:<BR/><BR/><I>"The twin images, <B>of the young men swiftly saying goodbye at the station</B>, and of the shredded bus, with its top deck peeled back by the blast, have become iconic, summing up both the new terrorism that is striking the UK and the apparent banality of the men who perpetrate it.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Except, of course, there is no "iconic" image "of the young men swiftly saying goodbye at the station", not even released as part of the "<A HREF="http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh/index.php?showtopic=2655" REL="nofollow">7/7 helpers</A>" trial in which the evidence was so compelling that the jury failed to reach a verdict. <BR/><BR/>Yet the notion of the "iconic" image is reinforced despite it never having existed. Not particularly clever, nor very subtle.<BR/><BR/>As if that wasn't bad enough, there is also a story by Kim Sengupta in the Independent which refers to, "<I><A HREF="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/airline-plot-suspects-should-be-retried-cps-says-924500.html" REL="nofollow">Those convicted of the 7/7 bombings</A></I>". <BR/><BR/>Oh really? News to me and a great many others. When and where did the mythical conviction of the alleged perpetrators of 7/7 happen?<BR/><BR/>When standards of journalism are as infallible as the two examples highlighted above, it seems there aren't many options left but to read the <A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2006/08/assault-of-dead-trees.html" REL="nofollow">Dead Trees</A> with a slightly more critical eye.<BR/><BR/>As for eye-witnesses, the raft of problems with them are incredibly <A HREF="http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh/index.php?showtopic=2428" REL="nofollow">well documented</A>. So well documented in fact that in any case where real, tangible evidence exists, eye witness accounts are automatically discounted.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-13706717238831327082008-09-13T13:12:00.000+01:002008-09-13T13:12:00.000+01:00Heh, I watched that documentary and an eerie sense...Heh, I watched that documentary and an eerie sense of deja vu crept over me, I can't for the life of me imagine why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-77072374236202817872008-09-13T09:48:00.000+01:002008-09-13T09:48:00.000+01:00George Carlin:I know he passed away recently as I ...George Carlin:<BR/>I know he passed away recently as I spotted a number of 'truther' tributes to him. The clip you linked to was actually the first thing of his I've seen! And based on that clip, I've been missing out :( but now no more :((<BR/><BR/>He's saying what needs to be said. I can see my weekend will be spent hunting for Carlin stuff. Thanks for the link.<BR/><BR/>Bill Hicks was also another late-comedian whose passing was mourned by some 'truthers'. It was a bit of a rollercoaster to me watching Hicks as be sometimes trampled on things I hold dear, but other times he was spot on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-61816323146231885192008-09-13T01:37:00.000+01:002008-09-13T01:37:00.000+01:00Any excuse for a link to George Carlin's low-down ...Any excuse for a link to George Carlin's low-down on the <A HREF="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ4SSvVbhLw" REL="nofollow">American Dream</A>.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-5614864439507726062008-09-12T22:34:00.000+01:002008-09-12T22:34:00.000+01:00You mean to say there could have been people pushi...You mean to say there could have been people pushing her???<BR/><BR/>*swoons with shock*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-30078936524500895202008-09-12T18:03:00.000+01:002008-09-12T18:03:00.000+01:00Oh, come on. You must be aware of how everything ...Oh, come on. You must be aware of how everything that glitters really is actual gold!<BR/><BR/>More so if it's on TV!The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5892105.post-73571180961788594992008-09-12T10:42:00.000+01:002008-09-12T10:42:00.000+01:00Aaah Tania. She lived the American dream. A dream ...Aaah Tania. She lived the American dream. <BR/><BR/><BR/>A dream that only ended when OTHERS woke up. Of course it's concers bonkers to suggest that other cases of Headism could and do permeate society today.<BR/><BR/>Could have been worse I suppose, at least she was more of a 'lone gunman' rather than having anyone steering her. Her actions seem rather apolitical.<BR/><BR/>Or were they?...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com